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How to: Mount Your Own Skis

(with a 3D printed jig)

Alright, so ski mounts. Feels like dangerous territory.

We all know how to drill holes in plywood. We also know how to put a screw in said hole. When it comes to skis, it’s not much different. Only you replace the plywood with your thousand dollar skis… so you can’t miss. That’s okay, you should start by practicing with a 2x4.

Practice mount on a 2x4. Practice was bang-on, boot center matches the mount centerline found on the 2x4.




Now, before I start, I will say that you can use paper templates to mount skis. This will work fine, you’ll just have to make sure you measure thrice and cut once. Paper templates require some very deliberate measurements and there are various videos online on how to do it.

For my mounts, I use a 3D Printed Jig, designed by MottN on TGR. MottN actually printed mine for me, and provided me plates for Look Pivots, Salomon, and ATK bindings. Check out this timelapse video made by MottN showing the process of aligning the boot center with the mount center on the jig and the mount center on the ski.

If you don’t want to go through the paper template or 3D printed route, I highly recommend the Jigarex by Sun Valley Ski Tools, as it has interchangeable binding mount plates for $50/per. While this is pricier than the 3D printed method, it is still considerably cheaper than buying a dedicated binding jig provided by the manufacturers.

STEP 1: Find your mount point (boot center) and the true the centerline of your ski

Mount point - This is usually labeled on the sidewall of your ski, this is done by the manufacturer based on their recommendation of boot-center should be for that specific ski.

Ski centerline - This is done simply by measuring the width of your ski to find the halfway point. You want to do this numerous times to align each mounting plate for the jig you’re using.

Here i’m finding the halfway point at each spot on the ski, in order to find the centerline (110.51/2 = 55.255mm)

Here you can see I’ve got the jig mount center aligned with the mount point on the ski (labeled here as ”boot center”). Additionally the centerline of the ski (the line marked on the masking tape) meets with the centerline triangles of each mounting plate.

 

STEP 2: Place the jig, and DRILL

Once you have the jig in place, double check all measurements, and get ready to DRILL.

  • If you’re mounting a ski with a wood core and without a Titanal (aluminum) mounting plate, you will need to use a 3.5x9.5mm stepped drill bit (as shown below) and the accompanying 12AB tap.

  • If you’re mounting a ski with a Titanal mounting plate, you will need to use a 4.1x9.5mm stepped drill bit and the accompanying 12AB tap (you’ll want the coated tap for skis with metal mounting plates).

Note: A shallower bit of 3.5x9.0mm or 4.1x9.0mm can be used on skis with a thinner layup (smaller profile/depth), though I’ve found 3.5x9.5mm works on just about every ski I’ve seen - even those thin Elan Ripsticks.

Now, make sure everything is clamped, and DRILL

3.5 x 9.5mm stepped drill bit and accompanying 12AB ski tap.

 

STEP 3: Tap holes + epoxy

Many will tell you this step is not necessary (except on skis with metal mounting plates), however, tapped holes will grab your screws better than holes which are not tapped. I recommend tapping the holes with a 12AB ski tap (the tap needed for all standard ski screws).

Once your holes are all tapped, you will need to add epoxy before mounting the binding. I recommend G/flex Toughened Epoxy though this is probably overkill. G/flex is slow-cure a marine epoxy (keeps water out) that is actually slightly flexible, so it will not crack as the ski flexes. Is this necessary? Probably not, a more standard quick-cure will probably be fine on skis because these holes are so small the relative flex with regard to the rest of the ski is fairly minimal.

But I like overkill.

Tapping the holes. Keep the tap upright and go slow until it bottoms out.

Adding G/flex to each tapped hole.

 

STEP 4: MOUNT THEM.

Mount them up, and check that boot-center aligns with your mount center.

Let the slow-cure epoxy cure for 24 hours before riding.

DONE!

BOOT CHECK! Boot center aligns with mount center! Yeehaw.

 

How to: Install Ski Inserts

(aka Quiver Killers or Binding Freedom Inserts)


The point of binding inserts is to provide you with the ability to adjust and/or replace bindings on a pair of skis, much like you would on a snowboard.
The thing is, however, skis typically don’t need this done. As long as you stay at your boot size, you likely won’t ever have to remount your skis, so a single mount will be fine for the life of a ski.

However, I’m one to move my bindings forwards, or back, as I trial a ski. More specifically, on both my Praxis Quixotes (daily driver 108mm waist ski) and my Praxis FRS (big mountain 119mm waist ski) I’ve moved my mount points forward from the recommended line, as I felt the recommended line was slightly too far back for my ski style (I tend to prefer a center-mounted ski).

So instead of remounting the skis and filling the previous mount position, I use inserts so I can move the bindings backward or forward as I please. That’s my reasoning.
Let’s first start by selecting our inserts of choice.

QUIVER KILLER vs. BINDING FREEDOM

Quiver Killer - this was the first brand on the market and the inserts are high quality. These inserts have internal and external threads cut from stainless steel. These inserts are great quality and you cannot go wrong with them. From my understanding this was the go-to company for a long time, but the founder got in some disagreements with operations, so he spunoff to make a second company - Binding Freedom.

Binding Freedom - this brand makes the highest quality inserts I have found on the market. While they are slightly pricier than the Quiver Killers, these inserts have rolled (forged) stainless steel threads, both internal and external, making them far stronger than threads that are cut from billet stainless. The ends of each insert are also notched so you have the option to use a large flathead to install them, in addition to the install tool they sell, or the more standard method of using an M5 machine screw with locking nuts.

It should be noted, both inserts are great quality and provide more than enough purchase for a ski mount. Are the rolled threads on the BindingFreedom inserts measurably better for a ski application? Probably not. Tests have shown that both style of inserts are measurably stronger (binding retention increased by 25%) when compared to a traditional wood ski screw used in ski mounting. So, with inserts, not only do you gain the ability to swap binding mount locations but your bindings will be far less likely to rip out.

I personally used Quiver Killer inserts on my Praxis FRS skis and on this ski, the Praxis Quixote, I will be using Binding Freedom.

Comparing the Binding Freedom with QuiverKiller, you notice the binding freedom inserts have deeper thread depths providing more surface area at the metal-wood interface. This makes them less likely to fail (aka rip-out) than the quiver killers.

Comparing the Binding Freedom with QuiverKiller, you notice the binding freedom inserts have a notch near the screw opening, this allows for the use of a flathead screwdriver to install them, in addition to the M5 Screw w/nuts installation tool.

Binding Freedom on the left, Quiver Killer on the right.
Image Courtesy of jondrums (on TGR), the dude who created both.

 

STEP 1: Drill new holes using a step bit.

Typically I drill holes for a standard binding mount first with a smaller step bit, and then widen those holes using a larger step bit. The step bit you’ll need for binding inserts is a custom size, with a 9.5mm step depth. These are usually custom made and are sold by both companies.

Comparison between standard ski mount bits/taps vs. insert ski mount bits/taps

Drill out each of the smaller 3.5mm holes with the step bit, expanding the hole to 6.5mm.

 

STEP 2: Tap + Epoxy

Once the holes have been expanded to the insert size (6.5mm) you will then need to tap and epoxy each hole. The tap can also be found at each suppliers website, but it’s a more standard 5/16-18 tap.

Tapping each hole using the larger insert tap. Go slow and steady and you should end up with some nicely threaded holes like shown here.

Once again applying G/flex 650 toughened epoxy after each hole is tapped, like I did in the ski mount How-To. I love this stuff.

 

STEP 3: Install the Inserts

Once the holes have been tapped and epoxied, install each insert one by one until they bottom out.

You should meet some resistance once they bottom out. At that point you will need to back off the nuts from the install tool before you can back the screw out.

Finished product looks a lot like a fresh snowboard, lol.

 

STEP 4: Add threadlocker to the internal threads of the inserts

Before you install your bindings, you will need to add threadlocker to the internal threads. This is just so that they don’t back-out on their own while skiing. For this application I used some extra Vibra-Tite I had on hand, but Loctite Blue threadlocker will also work (I don’t recommend using Loctite Red for this application).

Applying Vibra-Tite Threadlocker

Finished Product

DONE.
Yeehaw.

 

How to: Bend Ski Brakes

When buying bindings, it's typically recommended to buy them in a brake size that will clear the width of your ski. For example, if you bought a new pair of skis that are 108mm wide underfoot, you would need a set of bindings that comes with brakes that are at least 108mm wide as well, in order to clear the ski when the brakes deploy.

The problem lies when you buy a ski - or binding - that is far away from the available brake widths.

The dilemma:

  • I have a brand new pair of Praxis Quixotes that were made to be 108mm wide underfoot.
  • The bindings I want to mount on these skis are Look Pivot 15s. The catch is, Pivots are only available in 95mm wide brakes and 115mm wide brakes.

Given these options, most shops would tell you to opt for the 115mm wide brakes. From my experience in the past (when I had 115mm Look Pivots on my 107mm wide Moment Meridians) the overhang of the 115mm wide brakes on a skinnier ski sometimes cause the brakes to snag on one another when skiing with your skis close together. This is because that 115mm width is actually more like 120mm of clearance (the measurement is to the inside radius of the bent steel, which is radiused - not bent perfectly straight).

So I decided to buy 95mm brakes to mount on my 108mm skis. That means before I mount them, I prolly gotta bend the brakes.

When the pivots arrive they look like this:

Example of Look Pivot brakes, showing a single 90 degree bend (highlighted here in purple) - photo courtesy of L9 sports.

 

Here I am bending the brakes outward using the vise.

Our goal is to make this first bend so that it deflects outward from the ski slightly so that the brake will clear the 108mm ski, and then bend it back in so the brake sits "flush" with the side of the ski.

This is easier than you might think - all you need is:

  • a table vise (you will not be able to do this by hand, I promise),
  • some angle iron (approx 0.5-0.75")
  • and a steel rod (I used the base of an rusty ol' SDS drill bit).

First you want to bend the arm out in order to clear the ski. Do this by clamping the brake in the flat jaws of the vise, and cranking on it until each arm is splayed out at approximately the same angle.

 

The brake is now much more splayed than before - I estimate I bent the brake out by… 25 degrees?

Go slowly and incrementally. The brakes are made from cold rolled steel, which is seriously strong stuff, and will work-harden the more you bend causing it to become more brittle. So don't overdo it.

As you can see in the image to the right, this brake is now wide enough to clear the ski.

Most people will stop here.

This will be completely functional and the brakes might look angled, but they still operate correctly and will stow mostly out-of-the-way when the boot is in the binding.

Personally, I want the brake to bend back inward to the ski so the brakes won't jut out from the ski at all.

That requires another bend to deflect it back inward toward the ski.

 

This is where the angle iron and steel rod come in.

You can also use more pieces of angle iron to do this same thing. Basically you're just trying to create a point force to make a bend.

Like this:

Using the angle iron, the steel rod, and vise in delightful synchronicity* to create a second bend in the brake. *yes, synchronicity is a word. I know because I just found it in the dictionary.

 

Here’s what progress should look like. The left side of the photo shows the brake with just the 1st bend. The right side shows what it looks like after doing both bends.

And here’s the same binding on the left with all bends complete on both brakes. Not perfectly symmetrical but that aint nothin to get my feathers all ruffled up over.

 

Final Check, brakes divert around skis perfectly.

Done.

Yeehaw.